Globalists Turn on Israel? | Trump’s Token Bombshell | China & Russia | Ep #166
In this episode of the Matt Kim podcast, Matt and co-host Peter discuss a wide array of topics, starting with a humorously chaotic recounting of a jellyfish sting incident during a beach outing, which segues into a deeper conversation about rites of passage and parental advice. The dialogue then shifts to serious political discourse, touching on the corruption within the global political system, the effectiveness and consequences of Trump's tariffs deemed unconstitutional, the challenges posed by international geopolitical relationships, and the implications of the Shanghai Cooperative Organization summit. They explore the intrinsic contradictions in supporting entities they previously criticized, the potential duplicity and influence of central figures like Trump, and the controversial emergence of crypto projects. Additionally, they reflect on the implications of potentially withdrawing American influence from global affairs, pondering whether a focus on internal prosperity might be more beneficial. The episode concludes with a humorous suggestion that their producer, Will, should infiltrate 'central casting' to better understand the manipulation within the political landscape.
Jellyfish World: Navigating the Web of Politics, Media, and Geopolitics In this episode of the Matt Kim podcast, Matt Kim and his cohost Mr. Peter dive into a wide range of topics, including their hilarious misadventures with jellyfish, the mysterious health rumors surrounding President Trump, and the complexities of international geopolitics. They also discuss the recent appeals court ruling on Trump's tariffs, the influence of global summits like the SCO, and the ethical conundrums surrounding the proliferation of politically-driven cryptocurrency schemes. The hosts critique the artificial nature of viral media content and grapple with the dissonance of validation from controversial world organizations. Featuring a special curiosity about Central Casting, this episode blends humor with sharp political commentary, challenging listeners to rethink their perspectives on global dominance and national priorities. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:48 Labor Day Adventures 01:09 Jellyfish Encounters and Superpowers 05:12 Golfing and Copyright Strikes 10:26 Gaza Conflict and Genocide Debate 14:26 Political Commentary and Media Manipulation 40:42 Trump's Health and Speculations 47:48 Crypto Projects and Legal Risks 48:54 Trump's Influence and Legal Loopholes 49:33 The Howie Test and Investment Expectations 50:12 Memorabilia and Governance Tokens 51:51 Trump's Family and Financial Gains 53:34 Capitalism and Digital Investments 55:24 Political Corruption and Global Influence 01:16:45 Central Casting and Political Theater 01:26:48 America's Global Role and Future
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There's this psyop that's got me, that's got me spinning in circles because the logic of it, we're gonna, it doesn't make any sense, and maybe you'll help me understand today, Peter, and maybe you guys watching will help me understand because we'll break it down.
Let's go.
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever in the world you are. Welcome to the Matt Kim podcast. I'm your host, Matt Kim. Joined by my cohost, Mr. Peter. Got salute Satton. What's up? What's up? What's up? All of you? Sars check in. My heart goes out to you because it is the Matt Kim podcast. Welcome, welcome everybody.
Check in and make it known. Happy Labor Day, everybody. Yes, happy Government. Labor Day. It did you do it? Yeah, I went to the beach. I got stung by a jellyfish. Did you? Yes, I did. There there was high tide. Which beach you go? I went to the Redneck Riviera Nice dust in Florida. Oh, amazing. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Did you pee on your jellyfish thing? Did not pee on the jellyfish, but there were, there was high tide in the morning and a lot of jellyfish were coming in. So me being the knucklehead that I am, grabbed these jellyfish and just started throwing 'em around. I got stung all up in my arms, all up in my forearms, and then my son was swimming and he swam under a jellyfish.
It came up under the jellyfish and it stung his entire head and back. Shut it up. But that's what I told. I told him, Betty pee up my head. I told my son. I told my son, getting stung by jellyfish is a rite of passage. No, it's not. It is totally a rite of passage. If you, if you don't get stung by a jellyfish as a man is the most craziest place I've ever heard.
You haven't lived for everyone at all. You saws out there who love to eat do not get stuck by jellyfish. I think that's really dangerous actually. No, and I think some people have like really bad allergic reactions. You do. You do not understand. I told my son getting, I asked him, I said, how did Spider-Man, how did Peter Parker get his amazing abilities?
So, okay, Spider-Man becomes Spider-Man. 'cause he gets bit by a radioactive spider. Exactly. But if your son gets bit by a jellyfish, he becomes. Jelly man. Yes, exactly. I told him, I said, only superheroes get attacked by animals. Animals. And they take on their attributes. And so I told my son, now that you've been stung by a jellyfish, you have extra superpowers.
What's, what are the notable. Attributes of jellyfish will, can you look that up for us please? On the drive back, my son was like, stink people with jellyfish. That's what, that's how you deal. That's how you deal with kids that are screaming from jellyfish things, bro. You're like, dude, you got more power now.
Laugh it off. It's not that deep. He got stung in the head. Yeah, he swam up under this jellyfish lit. It was all on his head. The jelly was all in his hair. Stinging them bro. Jellyfish are gelatinous. Boneless marine in invertebrates with bell shaped bodies. Wait to it. Have stinging tentacles used to catch or prey.
Okay. Nerd way to have goals. You wanna be a gelatinous, boneless piece of blob that floats around. Yes. But could you imagine he could He, if he had, if he took on that gelatinous ooze. He would be a superpower of things in life. To aspire to be a jellyfish was not on my list. I'm, I'm dead. Nut serious. If you have not been stung by a jellyfish, is there a live nut serious, by the way?
I No cap. Uh, if you haven't been stung by a jellyfish, you're not a man. Mm-hmm. We had a rite of passage this weekend. I don't, with the redneck Riviera, I, I wouldn't engrave that on anyone's like, you know, dream board. No, no. All you saw is out there. Check in, let us know in the comments, have you been stung by a jellyfish?
And are you a real man? Is is that the line? That's the, that's the, you were talking about logic. You asked you in the beginning, you were like, Hey, help me figure this out. I just gave you the logic. Get stung by a jellyfish. Become a man. That's the rite of passage in America these days. So everyone that, if you're watching, let number one, let us know if you've ever been stung by a jellyfish.
I don't. I think I have been. It's been a very long time. Oh, so you're a man. Well. I, I got these kind of catlike reflexes and these kung fu powers. Kung fu power where when I see a jellyfish coming on who? And a mile the way. Wait, do that again. Who You guess I'm gonna clip that shit so I don't get stung by jellyfish because I am four D Chesting the jellyfish.
Ooh. And therefore, when the jellyfish try to come attack me, I'm, I'm already outta the way. Oh man. Yeah, those guys. Yeah. Better. So the rite of passage is, can you kung fu a jellyfish? I'll tell you guys, don't mess with Matt. His kung fu is very Betty Strong. Betty Strong today. Check in sa welcome to the show.
Glad you guys are part of it. Let us know where you're from. Always makes people feel that they are not alone. And the strange, crazy, somewhat evil and jellyfish world. Jellyfish world. Don't be a jellyfish. Be a real man. That's right. That's the lesson, that's the title of today's podcast. Don't be a Jelly.
Be a real man. And one, one interesting thing happened. Today. Yesterday you went golfing. No, I'm okay. Yeah, I did go golfing. I'm a horrible golfer, although I love to play golf. It's just You're a little rusty. I'm, I'm very rusty. I, I did have two birdies on the front, so, oh, okay. Let's go. Chi chirp. Chirp.
Let's go. Um, but not that great. Something interesting happened yesterday, which I haven't told you yet. Oh, secrets revealed. Guys, we got a copyright strike really for a short, we have an editor, Zach. Zach, bro. And, um, on one of the shorts, he put one of these witch hopping videos or whatever, whatever it was.
And, uh, one of these patent copyright trolls got us for it. And now we officially have a strike. Are you serious? Yeah, bro. Are you serious? It's like that. I had to, I had to do the copyright training, uh, reeducation camp via YouTube, and we have a strike for 90 days. Do you love the Jews now? So 90 days we will be throttled.
Really? It's a real strike. So if you're watching, if you care about the show, if you appreciate what we're doing, it's not enough just to share. Like tell your buddy, tell your friend. Like, bro, there's these two like chinky guys on the internet and they're kind of funny. They're kind of interesting. They kind of say interesting things out loud.
Sometimes they say stupid things out loud. I don't know. But it's worth the hour a week. Mm. Go check them out. Tell your friend. Yeah, because we are gonna get zero help from YouTube for the next 90 days because again, we are back. In YouTube purgatory. I'm back in YouTube jail. It's like that, Matt, we're back in and the first time this year.
Okay. No, the second time this year we weren't in because we said Jews own B angst, so rhymes with blanks. So, so we said those words and we were in YouTube, Jill, for 90 days. Yes. And one of the questions you had to ask, you had to answer was, do you love the Jews? And you said, I said, Peter does. He said it sounds like a fill in the blank.
I like Peter loves them so much. Exactly, exactly. I'm I'm the whipping boy. Yeah. Okay. So what questions did you have to answer this time when you were in purgatory? It was, I don't remember what the questions were. It was really simple. It was like four questions. They made you watch a three minute video and then answer these four questions.
Are you serious? Yeah. Seriously. Oh my gosh. So I had to go through this copyright ed reeducation camp. Um, had to. Eat some jellyfish. Bend over. Bend over. Put the jellyfish on my butt. Oh, is it like, oh, they did the SARS thing to you? Yeah. Did they, did you? Yeah. You had to do all that. But for 90 days, we are back in YouTube, purgatory and I, from all the crazy shit we say and do in our lives.
It's like some random copyright troll. It's, and I, I emailed them too, the copyright troll. Mm-hmm. I was like, look, we're sorry. Sorry. Here's some shekels. Here's some shekels. Can you forgive us? I've actually, I have a trip to Israel to hump the wall later. I've deleted the video and um, et cetera. And, uh oh, come on.
These guys. But the chance of them responding to that is probably like 1% at best. I get copyright strikes all the time. I just ignore them. No, but no, this isn't, there are, there are copyright violations where they just take your monetization on That video is a short and it's got like a thousand views on it.
So it's not even big. No, what a limo. But then they can copyright strike you where you actually have a strike. Oh, so he went the extra yard where? Have a actual strike on our channel. What a loser. Well, you guys have nothing better to do on Labor Day copyrights. T go back to work. Troll. Seriously. Sorry, SAR, I coincidental.
I don't know. It could be. So again, if you support the channel, support what we do, definitely share it with a friend. I find that fascinating though. Like we're at the end of the day in the entire spectrum of the political podcast, social commentary world, like we are a nobody. Hmm. Like truly. Hmm. We're like a nobody.
So for, for, I just find that, I find that overly aggressive. Right? We're just two knuckleheads just talk and smack. But we broke the rules apparently, which is always fascinating because we never know what the rules are until we've broken them. Yeah. You can't use other people's content and say, and like clip it into your own.
Was that really it, was it that long of a clip? It was like a 42nd short. We use, well, 40 seconds of that guy chopping wood as a video. I just, I just find that if you have like, what is it? Creative Commons. Have you ever checked that box on the YouTube? I'm gonna, we're gonna go over this after, after podcast.
I wanna show you this check box. I uncheck this box all the time. It, it changes it from. Create from original content to Creative Commons. Mm-hmm. And the Creative Commons basically says, look, knuckleheads, I'm doing this shit. You guys can rip it whatever you want. It's just social commentary. No homo Like literally.
Mm. I think if we started checking that box or unchecking that box, it would let us fly. No jellyfish. No jellyfish though. So first topic of the day,
Gaza had a hospital bombed over the weekend. Oh really? Dozens. Dead chaos everywhere. Yes. Another one and another one. Four Palestinian journalists were also killed over the weekend. Oh, that never happens. Since the war has began, over 150 journalists have been killed in the Gaza Israel war. Hmm. That's interesting.
The International Association of Genocide Scholars, the IAGS, it is a think tank of people who think about and discuss and write about genocide all over the world. Okay. They came out and they had a vote. Oh, 86% of them have declared Israel's actions as genocide under the UN convention. Wow. This seems par for the course, I think.
I think this has happened many times when they voted, and the vast majority agree that Israel's probably doing some pretty inhumane things to the people over there. And I think last year or two years ago, the ICJ, the International Court of Justice came out and they said that Neau is a war criminal. Yes.
And he should be trialed as such. Correct. And I'm thinking Great. Finally, these world organizations agree with how we perceive what's going on in the war. When you say we, do you mean America or Matt? Kim and Peter. Matt. Kim and Peter. Okay. Okay. But I've been struggling with this one. Really? Yeah. Tell me why.
Prior to a year ago, we thought all these world organizations, the un, the WHO, all these groups, they're like, well, they're all owned by the Jews. And they tell them what to do and what they say, and this new world order going on, and these are bad groups, but then all of a sudden they something, they say something that we like, and we're like, oh, the IAGS said something.
They called it genocide. I see where you're going with this. The ICJI see where you're going. We're like, oh look, they called him a war criminal. That's true. And we're like, I'm like, wait a second. I thought we hated. But now they're on our side. No, they were always on our side. Oh, they were always on our side.
Well, we actually have to break during COVID. They were all on our side. Well, we have, we have to break out it out into its constituent parts. And I thought the tiny hats controlled all of it, but now they're going up against them and no one ever wants to recognize that the groups that we said were controlled by them are against them.
But yet we hated them. But now we like them. Oh, it's like the friend of the, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Is it? Or the is enemy is the enemy of my enemy, my friend. I thought the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. But if it's the enemy of my enemy, aren't they my friend? Because they're helping me defeat the enemy.
I see. I think that's a weird statement because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. They're still my enemy, but they're tactically at this particular point in time, my friend, because they are leverageable to defeat my other enemy. I feel like in any movie I've ever seen, and I'm referring to movies, sorry, when they say The enemy of enemy, my friend, and they become friends to go after a common enemy.
At the end, they get screwed by their enemy. That was supposed to be their friend. Exactly. That's exactly how it happens. Right? You can only use, so they're still always your enemy. They're always going to be your enemy. So they're all of your enemy. Any anybody that is anybody. Let's, let's, let's back up.
Five steps. Mm. Anybody who is partaking or participating in a group that. Has oversight that is non-elected and that has oversight o over global affairs is our enemy. Period. Full stop. Why key word non-elected? Hmm. If you to, and I actually did this, you could do this will, if you want, type in the largest non-elected bodies of power.
Hmm. I did something like this six, nine months ago. Just curious, curious. You'll find that the largest power brokers of the world are all non-elected. Of course. I You say of course as if this is like a, a well-known thing. I don't think most people see it that way. I, I, I think most people see control stopping at the government.
It's like, I elected this guy at the Orange Man bed, or Barack Hussein, Obama, whatever, Joe Bidden, whoever. But they never realize that there's an unelected council above all of this that is moving these governments like chess pieces. That is the biggest, that is the biggest thing that we should be against is any unelected oversight group of humans that believe that they know better.
But we were,
we believed that that group of unelected individuals were a certain group of people. Yes. But the unelected group of people who control another unelected body of organizations, the unelected body of organizations are going up against the unelected group of people. I understand where you're, yes. There's a lot of dissonance and conflict within this unelected body, so we.
Didn't support them because we thought they were authoritarian, leading us to a dystopian future. Kind of playing God with our lives over the last four years. They still are, but yet they are. We are now referencing them as validation for our beliefs and what we believe to be true. Yes. Meaning we are now giving them credibility.
We're giving the same group of people credibility when we were spent the last four years taking the credibility away from them. Yes it is. There's some whiplash there. What's going on? Well, I don't want to be overly logical here, but I think we have to extricate and extract the individuals from the mob.
Hmm. The mob is what we don't like the overarching body of power. We don't like that. However, there are individuals within that body of power that probably think similar to you and I, that there is a nation state, a political agenda that's being exacted on these people of Palestine. And the video, audio and data recordings of all of what's happening there are quite obvious, Matt.
They are bombing hospitals, they're killing journalists, they're killing women and children. They're doing all the most heinous things that you could possibly consider. And at the end of the day, regardless of what the big body of policy oversight says, there are individuals who look at that individually and say, that's not right.
That's not right. And that's where these votes are coming from. And so we can disagree with the overarching policy or the overarching, you know, uh, control apparatus, but at the end of the day, we can agree with the individual humans that think differently than what the overall mass thinks. 86% people, their both, and 86% of people who think about and speak about and write about and research genocide.
In the world. 86% of them voted and said, this is genocide. That's a huge number. Let's round up nine out of 10. That's much bigger than I thought it would be. Yeah. It means there's not much controversy going on. No, there's not. And not, not, not in international, uh, you know, judicial reviews. It's quite obvious that nine outta 10 people see this nation state, Israel doing some pretty bad harm to this people group in Palestine.
And then I saw another stat that 83 of Republicans support Israel and the Israeli side. Oh yeah. Because of ignorance. Absolute ignorance. But D mastery. So is the premise that Republicans in United States are more ignorant than the rest of the world because No, for, for a long time we're like, well, the rest of the world and these world government agencies and bodies are.
Trying to sigh up us into believing that COVID is the end of the world. Mm-hmm. And the Republicans were the ones who were saying like, no. Like, hey, something's not right here. Yes. But now it's flipped completely. Yes. What did, what did Tupac Shakur say that Wise scholar, well, Tupac was gay. He was, yeah.
Shit. I fucked that up too, didn't I? Anyway, back in, back when I was a, back when I was a, we lad and I respected the man, uh, Tupac, uh, Shakur said, uh, times have change, but change comes with time. Right? The reality is, is times change and change comes with time. And while the vast majority were psyop into this whole idea of mask up six feet, you know, 10 days to, to stop the spread, the entire psyop of COVID and lockdown, they were locked step.
They were absolutely aligned on that. However. Times have change and change comes with time. I think people are, we talked about this in our last podcast. People are exhausted, Matt. Hmm. I think we have, I think when you continue to have, let's just, let's think of an engine. If you have a high revving engine and it's just, it's at 12,000 RPM 24 hours, right?
You, that's not sustainable. It, eventually, the engine's gonna blow up. Some, some people are gonna give up the exhaustion of that, of, of, of all, of that narrative of mask up, locked down. Don't, don't see your homies, don't see your family, don't see your friends. People were, are so exhausted of that. Now we move on to this Israel thing.
Let's be honest, this Israel thing's been around since the sixties, even earlier. If it were to go really back in history, people are tired of the nonsense. I think at the end of the day, this Israel conflict, you could almost amalgamate it up to a, a single idea. People are exhausted. People are tired of the bullshit.
People are tired of the killing, the robbing, the stealing. You talked about. Indo SAR exhaustion. Hmm. Lest like we're all exhausted of many different things. And I think, I think what we're seeing is the sentiment of these national leaders are finally like, you know what? The world is not okay. Things are not happening the way we want them to.
People are dying. People are starving, people are getting killed. Right. Israel, again, it's like, how many times do you wanna hear that word in the news? Israel again, doing the same shenanigan again. It's like, well, when are we just gonna rip off the bandaid and say, you know what? I'm done. Sorry. I think that's where people are at.
So while you, you, you, you know, you're arguing for this metalevel idea of, Hey, we were against these guys, but now we're for these guys. I'd say time's a change and change comes with time. I think people are, at the end of the day, are exhausted of hearing the word Israel in the same sentence as death.
Wouldn't you agree? Aren't you exhausted of hearing about Israel killing people? Let's change, let's change from Israel to. Uh, let's change it to Canadians. If Canadians were constantly in the news and Canadians were constantly bombing and killing and starving and, and, and doing all these horrible, would you eventually look up to the, uh, the hat of America, Canada and say, Canada, stop it.
Like, we're we're tired of hearing about your nonsense school ridiculousness. Wouldn't you agree? I mean, could it be that they know what they're doing and we're in a place where they just don't even care if you know the truth any longer? That's where we hit. We've hit peak exhaustion. They're like, nobody cares.
Yes, we're wiping everyone out. Yes. We're why they So what? Yes. We're, we're, we're Do something annihilating everyone. Do something. Do something. That's some strong words, Matt. I mean, what, why else? What, what else is the reason behind it? Because they could have shut it down. Yeah. If they have the power that we say that they have, then they could shut it down.
To let it get out there and let the news and the mainstream news cover it, which we say no, they own the news. Well then why are they covering it? Or are they allowing it to be covered? Of course they are. It's all part of the programming. Like, like I don't, I don't want to con conflate this into other news topics here 'cause I'm not, don't remember everything that we're gonna be going over, but we are seeing people in Malaysia burning shit down.
Indonesia. Indonesia, sorry, Indonesia burning shit down. We are seeing people in the uk, Scotland, Ireland burning shit down. We are seeing like the whole immigration thing, the whole people on other people like let's back up. People invading other people. That's the topic. People are getting tired of it.
Matt, we have Australians rising up. Have you seen the new UK? Nick Fuentes. Dude did, can we talk about that for a second? Dude, bro, I followed him. I screenshotted it. I followed him at 21,000, uh, followers on X. And I'm like, I bet this guy's gonna go, dude, I saw the UK Nick Fuentes, and I saw the Venezuelan Nick Fuentes, and they're talking shit about each other.
The metaverse, Nick Fuentes are fighting each other. It's like Spider-Man. It's like Spider-Man, right? It's like, yo, I was like, what is going on here? Every country's got their own ver and they look just like him. They do. They look like waspy. They wear a suit. They're waspy. And they have similar backgrounds.
They have the same type of way they speak. Yeah. And same time they have facial hair and they're all pointing at each other. Yeah. It's hilarious. Well, I think the result of people's exhaustion is these rise of these Nick Fuentes personalities. Hmm. Don't you agree? I mean, I listened to the, the uk, Nick Fuentes.
I listened to the, uh, the Australian guy who just got arrested. He's the Australian Nick Fuentes. I mean, I was like, these guys are about to burn the entire ship down. They're ready to, and they are a natural reaction to all the exhaustion that you're talking about. Wouldn't you agree? But if we didn't have this exhaustion, if we didn't have all of this immigration issues, people being usurped, you heard about these hotels?
Like they're giving people, they're giving the immigrants, they're giving them their brand new, like $300,000 homes and all this stuff. Like people are so tired of that. And so the reaction are these personalities who, who have hit, they've snapped and they said, you know what? I got a mic, I got a voice. I got a computer.
I's just start talking about the real real and that that's, that's where we're going, Matt. I mean, you don't think it's more likely that like, oh shit, there's this Nick Fuentes that's like really popular and blowing up and if I just copy his model in my country, I can blow up and gain audience and make money too.
Do you think it's, do you think it's that simple? I think so. Really? Yeah. I think people are like, do you think that that's mimicry? At the end of the day, they're just mimicking. Oh yeah, for sure. You, you don't think that there's a man, let's just say a waspy man in a, in a 300 square foot room that's thinking to himself, I've had enough.
Mm. You don't think that's it? I think there are plenty of people that think like that. I just don't think that there, those are the ones that gained the traction. Well, we've talked about this. Yeah. Remember, it's the upstarts who have an attitude, an ax to grind, right? A tooth to pick. They start saying some shit and then the, then the tiny hats come in behind him and say, oh, you know what this guy needs as a firestarter.
He just needs money and tools. So do you think these Australian, Nick Fuentes, the UK Fuentes are also being supported by the tiny hats as well, is what you're saying? I think, I think it's really interesting on what people talk about and why people do, can I just say this for the record? We have had no tiny hats approach us.
Is that because we're just like, we're not valuable. We're like, we're like minus school. We're we're insignificant. We're, we're. An insignificant ant. I wanna say that we've had, no tiny hats have come to us, Matt. This is mean. I don't think they come in like full force, like, Hey guys, we're here. You know what I mean?
I don't think that's how it works. Heres a, here's a blank check. I think they give you a small offer and they give you another offer, and then they see where you go, see how you react, see if you're willing to take the few steps, compromise. And then once you do, and once they feel like you're compromisable, then they come after you and they, they have the real conversations.
I don't think you start off just with your full offer like that just doesn't make any sense. You don't think so? I don't think so. I mean, let, let's talk, I mean, if I was them. I wouldn't do that either. I wouldn't come in, be like, you know, guns blaze and be like, Hey, you guys should just work for us now.
Like, I don't think that works that way. I think you test people, you know. Is it, is it more like this, this, this, this, uh, this news article that came out by the, the liberal, what's her name? Taylor Lorenz, where she was talking about all these influencers being paid. Yeah. Is it kind of more like that where they'd say, Hey, here's $10,000 a month or 5,000, which is not an insignificant amount of money.
Like, bro, five 10 grand a month. I'll take that brother. So that was the, the what was on their list, the wire and expose about Democratic Democrat influencers. They were being secretly funded by a group called Chorus. Yes. And this Chorus Dark Money Fund was a part of 1636 fund. Mm. And I've actually covered the 1636 before.
Yeah. Because they're the ones that used to fly out all the influencers to Washington dc to these White House tours. Yep. To do these propaganda campaigns with Kamala, uh, Kamala. Kamala. I still don't fucking know how to say her name. Anybody know how to say that correctly? Kamala? It's Kamala. It's Kamala.
Kamala. It's Kamala. Kamala. It's Kamala. I feel like you're making that up. That don't sound right. Kamala. Kamala. It's not Kamala. It's not Kamala. It's Kamala. Kamala. No. Kamala. Kamala. That's like Indo. What? Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala, please. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. All I know is that if she, if she resurrects.
It's gonna be a whirlwind. So, so this group, they, they gave money to about 90 plus influencers. About 40 million person reach? Yes. And they were paying some of them up to eight grand a month to be on their payroll. That's a good payday baby. Eight grand a month. And there was a list of na names. To be honest, I don't know who any of these people are, so I lost a little bit of interest.
The only one I recognized was Aaron Parnas. Parnas Parnas. Parnas, yeah. Parnas. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you're making that up too, because my, in English, she not so good, but they were giving them money, telling them, oh, you don't have to say anything specific, but everything's under NDA. Mm-hmm.
Everything's under secrecy. And there was this big wide article about it, and I was scrolling through TikTok and every single one of these influencers, like, no, I didn't sell out. Which is so funny because every single liberal influencer looks like they would sell out, but they like look like the type of person who would sell out.
But then the right does this. Yeah, fair enough. And then we had the Lauren Chenin where they were taking the Russian money. Well, that's right. And then you have Patrick Beda who just did the Netanya interview. And then all of a sudden right after Netanya, he's on Jubilee and he is doing the surrounding.
Isn't that convenient? Yes. He's gonna, he's making the rounds now, the media rounds and that guy, wow, what a disappointment. Patrick Beda has become unfortunate change his starts. I used to be a Patrick Bet David fan actually, when he was on the come up. There's, I found him interesting in the beginning. I thought he was smart, he was well spoken.
He's like this Iranian guy that was talking about, uh, the deep state and this news and work hard and yeah. Run your business like Oh, interesting stuff. Yeah. Do you. And then he just woke up with ne I was dick in his mouth and it's like, ah, I don't know about this guy anymore. And so he, it is always interesting the come up like caricature versus the established caricature.
Mm. The co like the PBD come up was Yeah, like hardworking crush it. Do you make the money, all that. And then now that he's been established, it seems like he's kind of wavered from that, uh, hustle mentality that he used to be all about. Well, I think he's still hustling. He just knows what pays. Mm-hmm. And what pays is that you are very Israel adjacent.
Mm-hmm. That you don't, that you charge people for virality and clicks. Yeah. And views that you say what the popular opinion is in order to not alienate your audience. Yeah. But he's, yeah, but he's now moved into irrelevance. Well, I mean, is that worth being paid to move into irrelevance And it's like you're now a slave to the system and they've been telling us the entire time he's not a slave to the system.
'cause it's what he wants to do. He wants to provide value entertainment. You're not wrong. There's no hiding there. And for us to think otherwise, maybe that's our fault. Maybe that's my fault. I'm not gonna say our, it's my fault because the entire time he told us I am value entertainment. You are not wrong.
And we're like, huh, maybe this guy has something interesting to say. Like, no, no. He was only like, no, no, I, it's not called interesting entertainment. It's not called honest takes and views. It's called value entertainment. It's not even like trying to be something that's above or beyond. Mm. It's not even his own brand.
It's not even like Coca-Cola. It's like I'm True Value. He literally has it in the name. He does. And for some reason we thought it'd be more than that. Maybe. Like nobody knows the machinations behind the man. Right. They don't, you, you never know what decisions, how they make decisions, why they make decisions.
But from a survival standpoint, I can understand why PBD has taken the survival route. Hmm. It's economically efficient. It keeps him with his, his funds flowing, the funnel going, and it doesn't raise a lot of questions. Hmm. Like, could you blame the. We've had conversations like this in dark moments of our lives, have we not?
Would you take money from the small hat? Hmm. In in a moment of weakness? And the answer is no. It's, the answer is it's a tough decision. But then the end of the day, we've gone this far naked and unafraid, and we're gonna continue to stay on naked. Well, we do have a lot of jellyfish. We do have a lot of jellyfish, but we are certainly naked and unafraid because they've come for us.
We've said no every time, and we're still here. I mean, it's becoming a real big thing where every opinion, every story, everything that people talk about, everything that goes trending, it's all manufactured. It's actually real prob real problem in the world. It's really frustrating. It is. I, I think that's why people have so much fatigue, because it's like if someone writes you emails over and over again with ai.
You can tell. Oh yeah. Oh, totally. Totally. It's not personal. And when people give you their ideas and opinions generated by bots, algorithmic bots and ai, which is basically what's going on now, you can tell, or someone pulling the strings, it feels the same. Oh yeah. It's manufacturing. We're at, I don't think we're at a story fatigue.
We're at a deity fatigue. Mm. Where everything that we consume online no longer feels genuine. Everything feels fake, everything feels manufactured. And I'm just so tired of it. So let me let ask you this. This just rose up in my gut. You're human just as much as I am. Flesh and blood. Matt, let me ask you this.
This is not supposed to be super deep, but it just came to me. Have you ever had a moment, Matt, where you just have, are just kind of over it all? Hmm. Like just over the entire podcast influencer game and, and the reason I ask is because. It can be frustrating to see all these guys rise up, get bought out, get acquired, or get maybe sponsored, and then they start diluting their message and they start playing the easy game.
Kinda like a PBD. Do you ever get frustrated where they're like, why won't they just come to me and gimme that life? Well, well, no, I don't think that. Why, why would the tiny hats give us a break, guys? I don't think that, but you know, I used to make a lot of these short form Instagram videos. Yeah. I used to do a lot.
I love those people. Love those. They resonated with 'em and it got really tiring. Mm-hmm. And uninteresting. And the reason it got tiring or interesting is because I am competing for people's ideas and views with people that actually they had just have talking points presented to them. Mm. I'm talk, I'm, I'm competing with, um, AI generated ideas and there is so much of it.
Out there on the internet and for me to compete with it, it's just not possible any longer. Mm. And TikTok said, no, you can't make money doing this. Instagram said, no, you can't make money doing this. Okay. Someone that's willing to spend their time and their effort to make original ideas and content and put it out there to lose to people who make unoriginal content over and over and over and over again, it's exhausting.
Well, it's not rewarding, right? It just doesn't feel like we're going to end. And then you put an idea that maybe original may be interesting, but maybe is against what all the propagandas are saying. And then I gotta deal with all the people that watch Propaganda's going, no, Matt, you're wrong. You're like.
Like, eat a dick. Yeah. I'm unsu subbing. I'm unfollowing, guys. I can't believe you sold out who the I sold out to. To who? Who did we sell out? Are you kidding me? Who did we sell out to? Please? If there's a dollar a string attached, please tell me, because clearly we've missed that memory. You know? Didn't you see that, Patrick?
But David said like, what are you kidding me? Come on man. I'm with you. I'm with you. So you're, you're saying that you're human too and the exhaustion is real. Yeah. It's just tiring. And then, and then going back to the original topic and then you see these organizations come out against it. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Because if they want it to grow, if they wanted to scale, if they wanted to do their thing, continue to do their thing, they would stay in line. Yes. But they're not, the only conclusion I come from that is that them not staying in line is also intentional. Yes. You've, you've read, or, but then it's the same as why do people like Nick Fuentes and these people that are growing online, that are being really anti-Israel, anti Jew, why are they allowed to grow and flourish, be it's very simple.
Like we have the answer. Have you, you've read Orwell's 1984, right? And Orwell's 1984. Uh, the main character, uh, his job was to rewrite history, right? He would got the, he would get this tube and he would get the news and he would read the news and say, okay, well this is what it needs to change to. He, his job was to rewrite history, and part of the meta narrative of 1984 was to keep the populace in such a state of variability.
And unknown and unknowing, that they could never rise up against anything because yesterday your, the amount of money that you could use to eat food was, let's take 18 shekels, and then tomorrow it's 20 shekels, and then the next day it's 15 shekels. And so the, the, the whiplash of news creates such instability in the mind that nobody actually knows because the guy's name is Winston and he works for the Ministry of Truth, right?
Everything is the opposite, right? The ministry of Truth is actually the ministry of lies. And so you might be saying, Peter, what's the point? The point is, is that as long as confusion reigns supreme man, then the rulers can continue to do what they want to do in absolute obscurity. And without any accountability.
That's the game is you keep whiplash everybody back. Wait, wait. They were on our side yesterday. Now they're on our now they're not on our side. They're bad guys. Yesterday. Oh, they're good guys today. Oh, they're my homies yesterday. But now I'm so confused, Matt. I don't know what to do. You know what I'm gonna do?
I think I'm just gonna turn on the prawn and choke my chicken and rub it with some jellyfish. The, but like, um, no cap. That that's, that's it. But isn't this why so many people are getting black pilled? Yes. Because the end of 1984, the premise and the end of the story is that the dystopian future is coming and there's nothing you can do about it.
Big Brother is here. Exactly. We're there, Matt, like 1984 was not a, a, a work of fiction. It was a, it was a documentary of the future. And then there's a lot of those that will say, well, if there's nothing you can do about it anyway. You might as well join. And then you're like, well, maybe what PBD doing is right.
The stake is good. Hmm. Is it good? Might as well get a bunch of free fake steak. It's better than having zero fake steak. And here, and here's, here's what our audience is excited to hear right after this, this color commentary. Mm. We won't give up. We don't, we don't actually know what that looks like. No, no.
But we're not gonna stop because something is eventually gonna happen when the world will say, you know this Matt Kim guy, he actually knew what he was talking about. We're so glad he survived. I think that's survived. Is the question. That's the key word. Is it not? It's like, we're so glad Matt survived with that retard Peter.
Mm. Like somehow he made it trending in the news this weekend was the health of President Trump. Oh. Everyone said, where's Trump? Where's Trump? We haven't seen him for a week. Yeah, he's been gone for seven days. We haven't heard him as me. And there was. It was like, is he okay? And then everyone's like, well, remember all that bruising on his hand?
Yeah. Yeah. He had all that bruising going on. What's going on? The White House came out and said, well, it's because he ate too much aspirin. I'm like, huh. Oh, I didn't know Aspirin created bruises on the hand. And that intriguing. And then you start seeing limping around, they're like, oh no, it's 'cause of his veins.
Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. And then we had the body double with the no eyebrows. Did you see that one? And then you start seeing these body doubles, which we know body doubles exist. Everybody knows. And they're like, oh no, look, he's playing golf. Yeah. And I was like, oh look, he's alive. He's fine. He's great. So what do you think's going on?
I don't think he is overly healthy. Really? Is it Because he never drinks water? He only drinks coke. Yeah. There's no way that his diet can, can keep him healthy. At that age. We knew that his age was gonna be a problem. Mm-hmm. We knew that going into this, uh, we knew that we were looking. I mean, between Biden and Trump, we knew that there was gonna be a problem somewhere because they were both too old.
Yeah. And, uh, yeah, president Trump is still playing golf and he, I don't know how healthy he is. So we, we talk a lot about the meta game of the, the, the men and women behind the veil who have the, the, the marionettes and the strings attached to everybody. So I wonder the news would not allow this to get out unless it was something newsworthy or worth the population focusing on.
So here's my question. Are they signaling a preemptive idea into the. Into the collective conscious of the world to say, Hey, Trump might not be as healthy as we considered. Number two, get ready for the JD Vance train. Well, jd, JD Vance came up and said, well, if something were to happen, I'm ready to step in.
And then they, that took that narrative and they took that little sound clip and they push it all over the internet. That's what I'm saying. And it's the people that are the propagandists that are pushing that. And I'm trying, I'm being very wary of what are the propagandists saying? Right. Why do they want you to know this?
Why they want you to know that JD Vance has said it. It's almost like they're testing the waters. Yes. What would the public opinion be? Mm-hmm. They can't let it happen right now. 'cause there is a midterm election. That's right. That needs to happen. But once the midterm election happens, will they do something?
Are they prepping you? Are they getting ready with this idea that something may not be right? I don't know, brother. If you had woken up on January 1st, 2025, and someone, if I were to come to you January 1st, 2025 and say, Hey Matt, I got a story to tell you. And the story is, in two months, Donald Trump's gonna get shot in the face.
Hmm. Not only that, we're gonna have Teslas blowing up. Hmm. We're gonna have weather balloons flying all over the place. We're gonna have blue orbs over New Jersey. We're gonna have aliens in my, we're gonna, we're gonna have all, would you believe me? Hmm? Would you believe me? Probably not. So this is my point.
Do you not see a future where this lame duck president Donald Trump will relinquish control earlier? Then the timing should be to a JD Vance. Do you think that could be a possibility? We live in this narrative where anything is possible. Matt, we had a man shot in the face. You know, like JD Vance wasn't originally Trump's guy.
He wasn't. He's on video saying, I'm, I'm a never Trumper. But then all of a sudden the assassination attempt happens and then Elon says, I am all for Trump. Yeah. 90 days later then they're bickering like bitches. And JD Vance was like a v um, Elon Pick. Yeah. Was a Miriam Aon pick. Yes. And Peter Teal, all Peter Thiel.
Pick all these people that are at the top of society that we call, consider them to be the technocrats and Zionists of the world. They were all JD Van's people. Yeah. And all of a sudden he's the vp. Happens really fast. Oh, super fast. And we're still arguing whether or not what really happened with this assassination attempt that we seem to never get to the bottom of.
And frankly, as you well know, if you are ever but shot in the face, you would never actually do any research on who? No. You don't wanna know. You don't wanna know the word. Why would you wanna know? I know. Why would you wanna know that? Water under the bridge? Right? Just a little. Just a little. Just a little, little.
Just hairline touch. Just put a scratch. Yeah. No big deal. No big deal. No big deal. NB, big deal. No big deal. That's what the teenagers say. No big NBD. All you gotta do is put a big bandaid on it. Yeah. And, and not only that, it grows back perfectly. Like it never happened. Never happened. I don't know, I don't know what's going on with Trump, but all I do know is that something is definitely not right.
I don't know if it's as serious as some people say. Some people were saying, oh, maybe he passed and they're bodily do doubling him right now. And all of a sudden they're like, oh look, Trump's playing golf. Oh look, he's gonna do a press conference. Oh look, they're gonna move Space Force. Here's the problem, Matt.
We saw Biden's body double. Yes. That was like a foot taller. Yeah. And you know, there's, there's, I'm not gonna make any proclamations here, but it looked like Jim Carrey and I remember watching the clip. I think we watched a clip together and. Joe Biden somehow was like, really spry. Yeah. Remember like skip where, where the hell did Joe Biden get to skip from?
I don't know. He must have been Ha he must have had some of that, uh, hunter Biden Happy sauce. Mm. So here, here's, I'm gonna make, I'm gonna make a, I'm gonna make a proclamation. Here we go. JD Vance versus
Joe Biden's son. Hunter. Hmm. 18 months. Hmm. They're gonna be on TV fighting. It's gonna be Gavin Newsom. No, it's gonna be Hunter. It's gonna be Hunter Biden versus JD Vance. Gavin Newsom is trending so hard. Wait, did you hear ma? He's making a meme coin. Is he? Well, Trump has a meme coin. Yeah, that's what he, he, he was on the news today talking about we're gonna make a meme.
Coin Trump. See how we do like literally, huh? No cap. I wonder if, I wonder if Gavin's meme coin will do better than Trump's meme coin. I think it made, I think he could, I think not do really well. I think it could because Gavin has what Trump doesn't, well, Trump does have, but Gavin has all of these homies that he, he can play with, whereas Trump was trying to really speak to the populace.
So I think Gavin's a meme coin could have extraordinary returns. I, I'm curious. I'm curious, see how that goes. So Trump, over the weekend, they released the World Liberty Token. Oh, that's right. They did do that. I'd saw that on Max World Liberty Financial. That's right. So is it time to get rich with Trump?
Well, if you had invested and World Liberty Financial and the World Liberty Token at the drop, then you would be downsize. Oh, really? Is it? Is it doing the downward facing dog? And, okay. I don't know how he gets away with this. Doing these crypto projects in the way that they do because the meme coin is clearly illegal.
What are you talking about? It's clearly against the huy test laws have been passed, sir, but the laws have not been passed to law this to happen. Well, they've, let's say they've been, uh, proposition, they're just not regulating it currently. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The, the law. Yeah. But they can regulate this in the future.
Of course they can, but right now it is a inconsequential thing to focus on. Matt, if you and I set up crypto companies in the same way that he did, we would be at SCC risk 24 7 on any given time or day, they can come after us. They could. Yes. Yes. Under the current regime, they're not going to because they wouldn't wanna flag anything for Trump.
Now, if we did it today and Trump, let's say, leaves office, and we continue to do that, certainly we would not be under the cover of the Big Trump. The Trump banner, because if we did it now and Trump were to leave office, we'd be screwed in the next administration. Even if we were no longer doing it, we could still get in trouble.
Of course. Yeah. We'd be screwed basically. It would not be a wise decision. Basically, they are honey potting every single crypto person to be at risk in the future. That's why I don't join the telegram groups and jump in the, jump in the fray. It's not a smart idea because everyone knows that there's something called the Howy test.
The Howie Test, I'm sorry, the Howie Test. Yes, and the Howie test is what they use to determine whether or not something is a security, and if you, it's a security, then you cannot have it open for investment. Yes. Only to accredited investors. Accredited investors, yes. There's a lot of, there's a lot of rules.
Accredited investors, you can't have a promise of return, these types of things. Yes. But all of his projects check the four boxes. Of course they do. Because you're not gonna buy the Trump token without a expectation of return. You don't actually care that much about having a digital address that has some sort of value attached to it.
It's not valuable. They are investments and they're selling them as, I think this World Liberty token, they're trying to sell it as governance tokens. Uh, I've heard the words government gov governance tokens before in this, but it's not a da, but it's not a Dao. I was about, that's exactly what I was about to say.
But also, they're also categori categorizing these tokens as memorabilia like. Swag. Like if I, if I like the, you know, the Toronto Raptors, I would buy Toronto Raptor swag to support them. Right. A t-shirt or something. So they're also categorizing these as memorabilia or, uh, what's the, what's the other, other world like, um, uh, like what's, what's the word Essentially, well go to the World Liberty Financial website and look at the, um, the founding team and who, who, who the people are.
What's it called? It's not a token, it is a, it's a to digital token, but it's not like memorabilia or it's like vanity something or some, something similar to that where it's just like, Hey, you bought it. And you gotta live with it, right? Even if it's a pet rock, you bought the pet rock. It is what it is.
You know? So they're, they're not, they cannot say it's a security. They cannot say it's an investment, then they would be screwed. Bad. But it is. Oh, clearly, because how so Just call something difference. Okay? Because Howie test, an SEC actually doesn't care if you call an investment or not. If it checks these four boxes, you are an investment and a security.
Well, we live in a world today where you can actually dittle small human beings and not be a diler. Can. Can you read the list? Uh, Donald Trump, Eric Trump, Donald Trump, Jr. Baron Trump, and then Chase, hero or Harrow? Uh, Zach Folkman. Steven Woff. Zach Witkoff. Alex, Alex Woff, Corey Kaplan, his sons, the, um, the Secretary of Commerce and his son this, his, who are the insiders, the inside owners of this.
Yeah. The insiders are gonna get rich off this for sure. That's crazy. No, why not? Like in any other country in the world, if the president and the president's family and the Secretary of Commerce and his family were to launch some sort of business that actually does provide, that provides actual no real utility, world utility or value, they literally print money out of thin air and they sell it to you as a memorabilia, but actually it's an investment into their money printed out of thin air.
And any country in the world, those people would be in jail. Even the most corrupt country in the world. You could go jail for that. Yes. How is that allowed? 'cause it's, they literally printed money out of thin air. 'cause it's the orange man. They just said, Hey look, there are these tokens, they're worth money now.
And we'll print. Billions of them. Yeah. Why don't you guys buy some? Yeah. And we said, and people said, okay, yeah, I'll buy them. Yeah. And the people who had the most in the beginning just became billionaires. Yes. That's fucking crazy. Capitalism is awesome. That's not even capitalism. What are you talking about?
It is the, the most, they didn't even make anything. That's the, it's the most egregious version of capitalism you could potentially conjure up Matt. They, they, there's like a spectrum of capitalism. Right. The worst version of capitalism's right here, they're doing that thing. They're printing money outta thin air.
They're, they're giving you useless IOUs. They're giving you an IOU saying, Hey, buy this thing. It might be valuable, this little line of digital code. Mm. In a huge ledger of more di basically they sent you, they sold you a cell within an Excel sheet Yes. With a bunch of ones and zeros attached, and they're like, Hey, this cell within this billion cell Excel sheet is not worth money.
Yeah. No, God, you have to tell, and this, this excel within this Excel sheet can go up in value. Yeah. You, yeah. And we didn't even build excel. We, I mean this, this is the Jewish model de jore. It's crazy. The Jewish model is the ability to create abstractions of value out of nothing. They are literally stealing from people.
Oh, yeah. Right. What was the, the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing you he didn't exist. That's exactly what we're doing. We're, we're, we're convincing everyone that, that this value exists when in reality it's just, it's just vaporware, man. Welcome. Well welcome, welcome to 2025, baby. Let's go.
This is so wild. It's so corrupt. It a huge, of course, it's corrupt. Have a huge problem with this. Of course. That's corrupt. Matt, I'm smiling here because I'm like, new news. Are you surprised? And the fact that nobody cares. Nobody is wild. Well, they even ha they even write articles about N-C-N-B-C saying Trump has made billions off of these crypto scams and everyone's reading Well, well, I guess he did.
I guess it did. It's a scam. Oh, come on brother. You're supporting armed man. Good. No, your money is going to a good place. This, this is like the worst for the Solana ecosystem. Scam needs your needs, your investment, because they are literally selling you nothing. Yeah. Has no value. Yeah. Whatsoever. It's a complete pausey in any other country in the entire world.
If a world leader did this, people would be livid. Let me ask you, this is what Trump did any different from Taylor Swift offering up tickets to go watch her sing Manly songs? Yes. There's no difference why Taylor Swift's Manly songs are have zero value. Hmm. Their caloric intake is zero, like. To go and pay for a ticket to go see Taylor Swift.
But I am not going to a, I'm not going to Taylor Swift concert, but I would not go to one hoping and have an expectation of return or to make money. But that's, but that's the, my point is that you are paying for Trump's token for entertainment value. Hmm. This is like going to, you've been to Vegas, right?
Nobody goes to Vegas and says, Vegas, you owe me money for all of this entertainment and all of this fun that I had, I should have won. Nobody does this. You go to Vegas to lose your ass, you go to Taylor Swift concert to lose part of your soul. Like that's why you go right. You, you pay them $150 for front row tickets, so you can see this man dance around with no hips and no booty, and you're like, life is good.
Right? You've just wasted your life. No different from investing in Trump. Trump is entertainment. Taylor Swift is entertainment. Zero calories. It's, it's, it is like a, it's like cotton candy. He already did the Trump meme coin and he can do it again. Brother are some swifties will buy every piece of merchandise under the sun from Taylor Swift.
Do, do you find, like, do you, do you feel like the people who spend tens of thousands of dollars on, on Taylor Swift, uh, swag, do you think they're being played? Come on, man. This is entertainment. This is Valuetainment. We live in the world of value attainment, Matt. Value attainment is right. We live in a world of value.
This is exactly, Trump is the, the, the, the purest form of value attainment. You went to Vegas, you rolled the dice, you played the game, and you got stuck with an a digital IOU. You thought it might have have had value, but let's be honest, when you go to Taylor Swift concert, you don't think about, I'm gonna have lots of value coming outta this.
You're thinking, man, I gotta see a flat ass. For the president of the United States to sell you vaporware and promise without promising. Because they don't promise, because they know the rules. They have a lot of very expensive lawyers. Oh, yeah. But they are projecting the expectation of return. They would not legally say that they are, but it sure seems like that, Matt, well, they, they say it just launches.
It's gonna go to the moon. So they're saying it Well, the moon could be low, right? The moon could not be high. It could be low, yes. But for the president of the United States to use his name, his recognition, his likeness to sell his supporters vaporware. Can I, can I, can I cut? Can I cut you off at the kneecap mat and hurt your feelings?
Yeah. Did we not have a podcast many moons ago where you actually thought for a moment, and I remember this 'cause I was sitting right here where you said, Hmm, this whole meme token thing. Like I, I get it. I remember you saying something to the effect of, I get it right. You could sell your likeness to help fund your project.
Hmm. And you actually had some agreeableness to this business model, did you not? Well, I think it's different because when we had the meme coin, it was literally a meme coin. They call it a meme coin. Mm-hmm. They call it the Trump meme coin. This is, you are betting on his likeness like you do on Kanye's likeness like you do on other people's likeness.
Acon, Wakanda, Wakanda. Sure. But that was an NFT project. Oh yeah. But this is trying to be pitched as a legitimate financial product, and this is supposed to be a real thing. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. It's different because the meme coin is like, it's a meme coin. Yeah. People know what that means. It means there's no inherent value.
Mm-hmm. And the SAC even came out and said, look, everyone knows there's no inherent value. There's a novelty. You are totally gambling. Yeah. Gamble away. Mm-hmm. Fine. This, they're pitching as a legitimate real project. Oh. This is so that we can control and support the, uh, US backed stable coins and that we can build up an economy.
And it's not about the fact that we own 85% of the supply and we can dump it whenever we want. And that you guys can, you can't ever make money 'cause we can screw you anytime we want. That's not what this is. This is about supporting be anti central bank digital currency. That's what we are. Yes. That's bullshit.
They're fucking lying. Of course. It's bullshit because it's because their foundation is based on the same rule of law under the meme coin, which is you can't prosecute Trump 'cause it's just a meme token. However, they are using very legally accepted, flowery language this time. There's, I'm gonna, I would guarantee, and I'd put a hundred dollars on it right now, Matt, that the undergirding legalese from the meme co to token to the World Token.
Exact same. Mm, exact same. I bet the legalese underneath are undergirding. That is exactly the same. The only difference is the meme token. They were like, ho, ho, ho. It is. Toys are rust. You're just gonna buy 'em. Meme token, no value. The only difference with this one is, hey, this could change the world. Right?
Maybe it has value, maybe not, doesn't matter. The legalese that allows them to do it is the exact same thing. And if I were to go even farther into this clown fiesta of a scenario, I bet after this world token, they're gonna launch another one. That's crazy. You, you think all this stuff because everyone, you say, I'm crazy, but they're gonna do it.
Trump's gonna bring back rule of law and order. Okay, so it's September. We're in September. When did they launch the meme token? Even them talking about like, I think Donald Trump Jr. Invested a bunch of money and they became a part of Poly Market. Yeah, poly market. Yeah. Poly market's fucking illegal. It's a, but it's a betting market.
And they're not even based in the United States. Of course they're not. It's a foreign company that takes bets. That's highly manipulatable. Are you, are you, are you, are you saying that American, it's complete propaganda. Oh, Peter Thiel owns that one also. Oh, that's right. Interesting. Are you saying that, that our politicians, but that was okay.
Our politicians are taking money from other countries and they're invested in other, other non-US. They're like, oh, they're America first. What? But why are all their businesses foreign? Yeah. Why? Why are their heaviest, the heaviest amount of money that they get it from foreign bank accounts? Why is that?
Why did Trump media sign a deal with crypto.com, which is not an American crypto company? No. They're like in Switzerland, I think. I think Singapore. Same. Same. Hong Kong or Singapore? Same thing. One of those two. Why are all these businesses that they say they're doing, we're America first. Why are they doing all their business with foreign companies?
And they're like, oh yeah, we're gonna do tariffs on everybody. Why are American companies the only ones getting screwed? And the people that say they're employing these new laws and regulations because they're like, oh, there's too much regulation, but we're gonna put new regulation on American companies, but yet we'll let 600,000, uh, Chinese students in because you guys are too stupid.
And you guys will like lose the top of the, uh, Ivy League school system. So you need more Chinese people here. You had to bring that one in. I mean, that they did that.
Did you watch Alex Stein blow up? Yes. Why is it that, why is it that Alex Stein, the Jew, the comedian Jew, is the only one speaking out on Tim Cast against. All the non-Jewish Zionists. Like, what, what kind of, I don't understand what's going on here. Well, that was kind of my point because it's tracking back to the whole, like, why are they our enemies?
But now they're our friends. Why are they our friends? And now they're, they're our enemies. At the end of the day, if you have everyone confused and there's tons of infighting, then it's easier to control. But number two, and I'm gonna extract myself, why did you bring up Alex Stein? Blowing up The number two thing is maybe there's, maybe our leaders are compromised.
Maybe if I were to take it even to a deeper level, Matt, and this is a little scary for me to consider or even say, maybe our leadership in America and the entire American system is so compromised that none of our politicians, none of the actors within politics or in big business, the tech oligarch, maybe none of them.
Mm-hmm. Are free. Hmm. Maybe they're all under a leash of sorts. Maybe The entire American system has been so co-opted, Matt, that we're arguing about minutia of who's been co-opted, who's been paid off, who's been bought off when we're just arguing about the ants under the tunnel. The reality is the entire system,
the entire system is, has been a fouled. Maybe that's it. May, may, maybe It's so jacked up, Matt, that it doesn't matter. Like, like, like could you see a reality where the, the Trump leadership of this world token coin are looking at each other and going, who gives a fuck? Ain't nobody gonna do nothing. Do something.
Could you see them? Could you see them hanging around with scotch and saying, ain't nobody gonna give a fuck. Trump's advisor and partner. On World Liberty Financial is Justin son, Ugh, from Tron. I forgot Justin son who ate the $6 million banana. Justin's son who does crypto training for the CCP, that Justin son.
And we're like, oh, America, first American. For American first. Oh yeah. But by the way, Russia, the partner. But by the way, our partner on World Liberty Financial registered in Delaware, that's an American company that's built to sell you nothing but extract value from you. We're gonna work with the Chinese, uh, crypto guy.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Totally makes sense. But people are like, oh, but it is Trump. It's okay. No it's not okay. No, it's not. You Something about that is so weird. And that guy is known to be shady within the crypto industry. Everyone in crypto knows. Everybody knows it. That guy is like ultimate top shadiness.
Oh, top shade. Top shade. He is top shade. Yeah. Like he's not top G. He's top shade. Top shade. He's top shade. I mean, let's be honest, man. If you are ama millions of followers all over the world, saw you hanging out with Diddy Mm. Or saw you hanging out with, let's just say people of that ilk, would that look negative on you, do you think?
But why does no one talk about this? Wait, are you telling me that the people that you hang out with don't matter, Matt? Mm. Is that what you're saying? Mm-hmm. And that in today's digital world, for us to rub shoulders with terrible human beings, ain't no thing but a chicken wang. Is that what you're saying?
It doesn't mean anything. People, you collude with people you, you work with people that you hang out with. I mean, I mean, for example, like, you know, maybe I, I don't know. You know, take plane rides to islands and stuff like that Doesn't matter. Right? Does it? Apparently that that never really happened. And uh, yeah, because it never actually happens.
Yeah. Because nobody actually ever goes and does evil things in the real world. And they're like, come on, come on. All you naive fucks You think people are doing evil? Shame on you. Even shame on you. Even during this releasing of the Ghislaine Maxwell transcript, shame on you. They're like, you dis her. You can't trust Ghislaine Maxwell.
She's gonna lie. She's not gonna tell the truth. And then they're like, oh, but she said that Trump didn't, was Trump wasn't there? No. Like, oh no, we believe her. Oh. But then she lied. But no, but we, the, the amount of selective believing of organizations, of people, of narrative, I think that's what's tiring.
Same thing like as we started, we don't like the WHO, we don't like the world organizations. We don't like the un, we don't like these groups. Until they say something we like. Mm-hmm. And then we like them. Yeah. We don't believe anything Klay Maxwell says until she says something that we like. We don't like investing and working with all these foreign companies unless they're working with someone we like.
Oh, we don't like, we don't like, we don't like, unless we agree. I see. This is where we are. No one has any standards of their own morality or integrity any longer. No spine. It's crazy. Everyone's a fucking jellyfish. Oh yeah. That was cool, huh? That jellyfish coming right back from you. Brought it back, brought it back.
You closed the loop. Closed the loop on jellyfish. I was wondering if that jellyfish was gonna be a dead dad joke. I was like, fuck. How are we gonna close this shit? Because I brought up the jellyfish and I was like, fuck, man. But you're not wrong. Everybody. Jellyfish. What the fucking jellyfish, spineless.
Boneless. You're not wrong. Okay. Everyone has something to say about someone until they hear something they want to agree with, bro, and all of a sudden they're their friend. You got it. And I like somebody. It happens to us all the time. We like those guys. Mm. But then there's something I don't like. I'm unfollowing.
You guys, I'm un subscribing. Happens to us every day, every single day. Could I follow you? Exactly. So we're, we're immune to that. By the way. When you, uh, when you say that you're gonna unfollow, don't let the door hit you in the ass. Fuck off. No, but you're not wrong. We, that, that's the closed loop we, we have witnessed in our short lifespans.
Matt. The mass of personalities are spineless, jellyfish, spineless. Right. They have these, they have these little, they've, they have these little stingers and they like to sting now and again. But at the end of the day, like when I picked up this jellyfish and I showed this to my son, like it started like disintegrating through my fingers 'cause it's a bunch of jelly.
Hmm. Like just by, oh, it's a good one. Just by taking it out of its natural habitat, the water, and by shining it to light, it started to disintegrate in my hands. That's how weak these men and women are, is that if you merely shine a little ounce of light on them, a little bit of truth shrivel up. Just like Alex Stein and, um, and Tim cast all those actors and Tim cast, when he started blowing up, they were all like spineless jellyfish, right?
They're all like, bro, it's true. Shine the light. Sounds like a Jesus thing. Over the weekend, I think on Friday, appeals court ruled that Trump's tariffs are unconstitutional. I did say that on X that passed through my timeline. Yeah, because they say that the president cannot impose tariffs and has to do through legislation, which is kind of true.
Well, it is true. Yeah. So now they're, now it's gotta go. The Supreme Court. The Supreme Court's gonna rule on, I have no idea which way the Supreme Court's gonna go. They're gonna block it. They're gonna block the Harris. They, they, they, bro. How long have you lived on this planet? Okay. I saw a theory, I don't know if it's true or not, that if the tariffs get blocked, then the government has to give and refund to you the population, the citizen, some of that money back.
I have not heard this. This is new news to me. Because you paid for tariffs and you paid an extra cost and money that you should not have paid for. Well, yeah. It goes to the companies that pay the tariffs. The importers? Mm Oh, not the individuals. No, not, okay. So you and I don't benefit, but the businesses due directly, indirectly.
Fair enough. Because the cost of goods would go back down. So let's back up a step. Wasn't the tariffs kind of like Trump's like big ticket item? That was his thing. So can we, let's back up one more step. Are you potentially insinuating, Matt, that none of the promises that Trump made in his election campaign are coming true?
Like, like literally zero still? I'm trying to think if there's one that, of, of the major campaign promises, which one, if any, would have come true? That's why I'm asking you, how long have you lived on this planet? Matt? Did any of Bill? Bill is zero. Did well, there has to be one, right? How many, well, can you think of any, how many of Bill Clinton's mass of ideas passed?
How many of Bush? Bush. Senior. Bush, Jr. What about, what about Obama? Like, Trump is not new to this. Like nothing's, nothing's changed. Matt. Okay, so I'm trying to think, think, think hard. Think like a jellyfish actually do. I don't think jellyfish have brains. Do they? Do jellyfish have brains? They have to have brains.
So the mega donors that supported Trump, they got their promises filled. Oh, of course. Yes. They got the inside man. Peter Paler. Alex Karp, they made their money. Jellyfish don't have brains. Bill Gates, he's making his money back. Mark Zuckerberg, he's making his money back. Jeff Bezos, he's making his money back.
Oracle. They're gonna make money. All of the foreign companies that supported Trump, they're making their money. Oh, didn't he uh, release the MLK files? That's the only one I could think of. No, he didn't do that. No, no, no. They were, they were the same redacted nonsense. Just the same as the, uh, JFK redacted nonsense that we already knew.
Yeah. Nothing happened. I'm trying to think if there's any promise. Like there's no mass deportation, the interest rate hasn't gone down. The war are still going. Wars haven't stopped. Are all still going? Yeah. If not, they're amplified. Oh yeah. We've spent more money. Um, Israel's still getting money every day.
The Ukraine's still getting money by the way. Like, by the way, I saw a news article on that yesterday. I think crime, I don't know if crime is necessarily down. Um, Hillary's not in jail. Hillary's definitely not in jail. That was a promise. That was a promise. Yeah. Come Comey, Comey was supposed to be in jail too.
I'm trying to think if there's none of the Bidens got in trouble. Remember they got preemptive pardons? Um, oh, Fauci is not in jail. Oh, that's a big one. Fauci iss not in trouble. Yeah, bro. He should totally be in jail. He did go after John Bolton. Yeah, but he's, he's a, he's a, he's a Dr. Seuss character, but that seems more personal than anything.
Yeah. I'm trying to think. He did launch a bunch of crypto projects and meme coins. They weren't part of the campaign promise. Yeah. I don't think he promised. I'm gonna, if I get elected, I'm gonna have the best meme coin ever. I don't know if that was a promise. I don't think it was. Well for all of you, you, uh, for us, Matt is continuing to go on his, uh, mental crusade to figure out with whether Trump made any promises that he actually kept, no jellyfish do not have brains or hearts.
So jellyfish is actually an apropos very appropriate metaphor for all of these spineless commentators and political pundits that we see out there. What is a Trump campaign promise that was filled in the first six months of pregnancy? If you have an idea of what it could be, leave a comment, let us know.
I'm curious, I'm curious to see what people actually think were fulfilled. I mean, I hate to say this 'cause it sounds really negative and it sounds dystopian, but maybe it's just, maybe, maybe Trump is just a part of central casting like everybody else. Hmm. You've heard Trump super cuts of Trump saying central casting like a thousand times, right?
Haven't you? No. We will, we'll, we'll put that on the stream next time we're gonna hear, bro. Are you serious? Yeah. Wow. Central casting, baby. You guys all know what central casting is. Matt, why don't you tell us what is central casting all about? It is something that Candace Owens came from. Hmm. Well, let, let me, let me play a, let me play a Fox News clip that came out just three days ago about NASA astronauts.
Let's take a listen. Maybe he said something he probably shouldn't have said to the Space Station. Mike and Sonya are the two of the four American astronauts that are on that flight. They're right out of central casting. But what happened, Sean, we, you talked about the moon and I want to get to that. But on every single mission that we send up into space, whether it's Blue Origin or SpaceX or others, we keep learning and evolving.
And so what's so cool is American innovators, American scientists, American manufacturers, builders 127, let's pull that back mission to the Space Station. Mike and Sonya are the two of the four American astronauts that are on that flight. They're right out of central casting. But what happened? We talked about the moon.
Why would a news reporter with such clarity say that these two astronauts, straight outta central casting, were on this moon mission? Are we outta central casting? I mean, I mean, that couldn't have been a, I mean, central casting, that's not something you conjure up out of your, let's just say, uh uh, reptilian brain randomly.
Right? Okay. You don't say Moon, moon mission central casting in the same sentence. That sounds like they're actors. Matt doesn't, does it not? If you are gonna do something within government that is high profile mm-hmm. Would you ever let, would you ever risk it knowing the implication of the eyes, media of people watching all over the world?
Would you ever risk it to put someone out that's not a part of your central casting? No. You would have to. Right, of course. Because otherwise how can you make sure, number one, that they can play the part that they can say the things that you want them to say, that they've been trained properly to say the things that, to get the correct message out there.
I don't think they could risk using like a genuine, legitimate, real person. They can't. They all have to be part of the show. You got it. So that's what I'm saying is that I can find you, if you gave me another 15 seconds, I can find you. Super cuts of Trump saying central casting. Central casting. It's like the, it's like the threat of central casting.
You know? It's like Hillary, is that a, he says it so many times. It's almost like he's projecting this reality. Because if you do any simple Google search for central casting, central casting is the most prolific acting company that sends out actors for political social agendas. That's literally what they say on their website.
So could, here's the question, could Trump simply be an actor in the game? Oh, it's like you, you know, like the people have the simulation theory. Yeah. That life is just a, that should gives me a, gives me a headache though, bro. I think we need to go down that one maybe, uh, in a future pod because. All these signs point to the fact that we are just living a simulation.
Yep. You got it. And when the people that truly believe that, it's really hard to argue against it. Yeah. Here, let's listen to this. Anybody in Hollywood, it looks like I was the perfect person. I was like, central casting.
Central casting. You can't cast a, what do you have? There're you don't have anybody in Hollywood that looks like these guys. All right, that's enough. He's a central casting. We're gonna get copyright strike for using someone else in music. Trump says central casting a lot, doesn't he? You find the super cuts.
That's intriguing to me that he would speak so much about an acting guild that is so prolific in America. Why is it that? Why is an acting guild so closely tied to politics and social agendas? Why is that, Matt? Maybe we need is that take acting classes. You know what, you know what I need to do? I need to go take acting classes.
I need to go apply to central casting will. That way when people look me up, they can say, this motherfucker is a Jew. That's how that works. That's exactly how it works. Wait, can you just apply? Yeah. Can we apply? I I'm, I am. Should we apply? We have to now, because now the internets and all the SEOs and all the Googles are picking up our voices.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Hold. If you applied or I applied at this stage of the game, it's too obvious. The only actual logical solution to this will needs to apply. I see your logic. Because they won't know that is will. They've heard his voice, but they don't know it's him. That's right. Will needs to apply for central casting.
He needs to infiltrate the system. He needs to go undercover and needs to let us know the next time they do an Antifa riot. Will. Will. Is your body ready? For the jellyfish. Will you, you, you, what you guys don't see is he's so m he's so excited right now. He is totally ignoring us. I, I think we'll need to, dude, let's do that.
We'll need to apply for central casting. I I It's too late for us. We, it too late. People are compromised. We compromised people like, people like Matt, you joined Central Casting in September of 2025. What a, what's wrong with you? Yeah, yeah. No, you gotta do it before people know. Yeah. So Will needs to join central casting and we'll report back and let us know what's going on.
And maybe you'll see Will on the moon. You know what, you know what did, no, you know what, what if, what if Will became the next guy to go to space? He's gonna be K Patel's next girlfriend. Dude, I like Alexis. Come on. She's been on the show. You don't, you don't think she's a no central casting? No, no. Alexis is the sweetest girl.
I am a huge fan of Alexis Wilkins. Fla me All you Want. She's a friend of ours. Show I'm taking my headset off 'cause I don't even wanna hear your voice. She's great. I don't even wanna hear your voice. She's great. You are telling me that this 26-year-old mm. Is dating a 47-year-old. Mm. Sar
are you serious? You, you're, you a a she's, what would you, what, what would you say, Alexis? Seven out. 10 out out of 10. What do you, what would you say? Because you and I are so on opposite by, what do you think? Seven. Outta 10? You probably think she's, I, I think I know her too well to radar her publicly. Okay.
Well, she's more than a seven, would you say? Yeah, she's pretty. Okay. Okay. Do you think someone of her caliber, of her stock, of her breed would fall in love? I think Alexis a 47-year-old sar who? Who's Oh's on tv. Epstein kill himself. No, you, you got be cross-eyed too. Oh, F Jeffrey Epstein. He killed himself.
Guys. Totally killed himself. You're you, you're telling me that she's not central casting honeypot. Uh, I like Alexis. I think she's honest. I think she's genuine. I think she agrees with more of what we think and how we think more than people realize. So will take note of this, Matt, 15 minutes ago talked about, you know what?
Everyone's so necessary, everyone's so jellyfish, you know, they, they like someone then and they don't like someone now because their personality and bias. And then I'm talking about this Alexis girl, and Matt's just like, backtrack. Could your forget your relational equity? Forget your historicity and your empirical experience To the contrary, Matt, I'm telling you, 26-year-old, eight outta 10.
Damn long-term relationship with damn eight. I'm just using your words. She's like a two in my book. I didn't say either. I go for bru next anyway. So you're telling me seven outta seven or eight outta 10 bru. Uh, brunette would be in a long-term relationship with a 47-year-old Sar. Hmm. Get the fuck outta here.
Get the fuck outta here. Mad. Come on. She's a friend of the show. I like her. And, um, I dunno, I'm not saying I feel like I'm saying, I'm not saying I don't like her. I'm just saying there's a lot of oddities at play. It's true. I mean, she's, he's like 20 years her senior man. Come on now. Damn. If I was 47 like you are Peter
talking, if I was 47 like you are Peter, and I was divorced and I had a little bit of time, money, power, influence, name recognition. Would I try to date a 26-year-old? No, because you're better than that Matthew. And I know you well. I mean, I said if I was divorced. Oh, because he is divorced. Yeah, that's true.
So you're not, you're not that a good of a person actually. I mean, okay. Am I making bad? Just, I'm making people are like, Peter, you're a ripping on, uh, divorced people. Yes. If you ever, you made a promise before God. Exactly. If you were ever to get divorced, never gonna happen. I'd probably die before that happens.
I married a lawyer, by the way. You forgot. If you were ever to be divorced, would you date and marry again? Never. Never. Easy. Okay. Easy. I don't wanna say this because it's like badge as you. Well, then don't say it. Damnit. Yeah. Don't I know, I know, I think I know what you're saying. Yeah. I don't wanna that we, we are, are, are we, we are fallible men of God who are trying our best to speak truth amongst the sars and amongst all the muck and the mire.
And there's some, some, uh, situations that need, not, need, need not be spoken of are conjured up. Last thing over the weekend, there was an SCO summit. The SCO Summit is a Shanghai Cooperative Organization. Is that what it's called? Can you look it up for me? Will SCO Summit at this summit was China, Russia, India, Iran, and a bunch of smaller countries from Central Asia accounted for approximately 40% of the world's population.
President G called it a new world order, whereas Multipolar anti West. Very bush in. Very bush in. Except the biggest difference is that it is multipolar, meaning that it is almost like their version of kind of the G seven. Yeah. Versus the US model, which is the US and then everybody else. Yep. This is more, Hey, we are joining together and we're bringing Russia, India, China.
Yep. They wanna weaken the US dollar dominance and they wanna start trading in their own currencies.
What do you think? Uh, well in 1993, I think it was 1993 or 1994, I had a, um, uh, a compact 3 86 computer. And I was living in, uh, Tokyo, Japan at the time, and my uncle sent, sent me a, a, a message, uh, through Telenet back in the day and he said, you need to check out this new game. It's by Sid Meyer. I had no idea who this was, so I checked out this game.
It's called Sid Meyer Civilization Law. Civilization, yeah, man. Changed my life. Core memory. The fact that I can recite all of this so quickly is just, shows how much of a core memory this was. I spent hours Matt playing that and my favorite tune, my favorite thing to create was philes. You know, the guys with the long spears and the, and the big shields because for some reason I could destroy entire land masses with these philes as long as I keep mass producing them.
The point I'm trying to make is ever since 1993 or 1994, when I got into the game of Civilization, I realized that, that the entire purpose of nation states and state craft with simply expansion through two means, war and resources. That's it. War and resources. So let's go back to this summit of the Asian people.
The summit of the Asian people is the right thing for them to do because the American hegemony is, let's just say, been defiled. And we have created, uh, global, let's say, issues all over the world, uh, by leveraging actors that are of unscrupulous nature. So if I were to be a nation state with statecraft on my mind, I would be thinking, how can I increase my dominance of my nation?
How can I increase the prosperity of my nation? How can I increase mineral and resources for my nation? And how, how can I cooperate effectively with other economies that are close to me? I think it's the right thing for them to do, and I hold them. No, I hold them. No Ill will. If they wanna do statecraft and they want to grow their nation for their people and they wanna conserve their, their population, do it even if, even if it's to the detriment of America.
I hope America doesn't. Likewise as well, because a lot of people are very. Against this idea of a one world government of course. But what if that one world government meant that your world and your country were the one that sat atop the cha pyramid? It's, let's be, it's been good to be number one for this long, hasn't it, Matt?
And then you have this bifurcation of this world order where you have the West US run system, and then now you have the Eastern powers, China, China, Russia, India, creating their own. Some would argue that it's not a good thing because you don't want the other side to unite and grow and gain recognition and power and reach and dominance.
Understood. There are other people like, well, actually having more competitors is a good thing. Mm. Because it creates some sort of balance. Yes. I dunno. Uh, again, I'm approaching it from the very objective, top down statecraft, you know, country nation building. Like, if we look at it objectively, it is fully within their right now as an American who is participating in the global narrative of, of economies and markets, I want America to win.
I like America. I like Atlanta. I like, I want America to flourish. If you, you and I are America first, if you want America to win, isn't the idea of America winning on the global stage, the antithesis of what America first has become to mean, meaning that when you say America first, I want the money, the focus, the state within the borders and let the rest of the world figure their own shit out.
In that case, what you're saying is we're giving up world dominance. Mm. So that other world groups and organizations like China, like Russia, let them organize and own the rest of the world. It can't have both ways. You can't. You're not wrong. So which one is it? Well, I actually just ensured that this entire episode is gonna be demonetized, censored and probably get our copyright strike number two, because accordingly to the A DL America first is, is is deeply antisemitic how they came up with that.
I have no idea. But aca, apparently America first is deeply anti-Semitic and straight to jail. Mm. Apparently So. The fact that I said that multiple times here means that we're gonna go back into YouTube jail. Unfortunately, five years in a prison camp. You know what? Well, Will's body's ready 'cause he's gonna be going into central casting.
Central casting you and I are gonna be going into That's true. Into the gulags is where we're going. Well, so my short answer to your, to your, to your question is, well certainly I would want America to be America first. Not at the detriment of ignoring geopolitics and global affairs. We have to be able to do both.
Hmm. But we cannot be, and I think this is where the exhaustion we talked about earlier. I think people are exhausted with the means and ways America does business. But don't, you don't could, if you, if you don't want to sacrifice global affairs, then with a conflict going on in Russia and Ukraine, don't you have to be there with a conflict going on in the Middle East?
Don't you have to be there with the conflict conflicts going on throughout Asia? Don't you have to be there in Africa? Don't you have to be there then? Isn't that how we got into the situation? We are where we are involved in every single country's wars, affairs, economies, because in order to make sure that you stay on top of the food chain, you have to be there.
I would change your argument just a little bit to ensure that you're on top of the food chain. You have to ensure that you're participating in the economic advantages and economic efficiencies of being in those other countries. The only reason why we have, uh, all of these military bases and all these other countries is we have economic reason to be there.
It is good to be the president of the United States because you get to use our armed military service to do whatever you want. You could tell them to go to Nigeria and go raid them. You could tell 'em to go to Israel, go raid them. Like, that's the power of our military might, is we have the ability to say, you know what?
I heard they have new blue lithium in Texas. You know what we should do? We should flood 'em all. What if, what if America as a country, as a nation said we'd no longer wanna be world number one? Ooh, that was never, you're never gonna hear that come outta anybody's mouth. If you're not world number one, you're not responsible to fund everyone's wars.
You're not responsible to protect everyone. You're not responsible to take care of all these other citizens of the world. All you'll be responsible for is America. I don't know what that experiment looks like, but it sounds pretty good. It's not like people are gonna attack the United States. United States are protected by two oceans.
We are actually the best landmass to be at in terms of trying to, people trying to invade us. The United States can self sustain. You could literally draw a, you can put walls around all the sites. No one in, no one out, and you'd be fine. We would actually be fine. We would actually be quite fine. There's enough resources.
Oh yeah. And food and energy. We have so much corn within the borders, so much where you ev actually don't even have to trade with anybody. What you could run your entire life by just staying within the borders. If you're America first, wouldn't that actually be the solution? Meaning you forfeit. Being the global power of the world and just focusing on yourself.
No, they're not. Coming from China to take over the United States landmass. It makes no sense. It's too far. It's too far. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Usual. Let's say traditional, uh, war machine, uh, strategies not gonna work in America. What if all your military's budget was spent on defense instead of offensive? Maybe we'd, maybe we'd be more like a, I don't know.
Instead of trying to figure out how to import food, why we just spend that money to like grow food. Can, will, can you make, would that be a model that's possible where it actually works? Was that, do you know what we as the United States, no longer wanna be the world number one. We just wanna make sure that United States is the best country of the world and we don't care what anyone's doing.
What would that look like? I would love that experiment and Will, can you look up something real quick? People don't realize how much food we export. Just look up food exports America. We have so much corn and wheat and all sorts of things that we can eat and survive on in America alone. Hmm. I don't, I truly please will.
Spot ha. How much tonnage do we export? I don't know about tonnage, but it says approximately in 2024 it was $176 billion in agricultural products that go out. Yeah. Go out. Yeah. If that just stayed in Hmm. We would be so fat and happy. Right? What? What? What do you need to survive? Food, shelter. Close. Hmm. And that's it.
Right. Other than that, like you don't, A little bit of land, a little bit of fresh air. Fair enough. So friends, family. Fair enough. That's all we need. Food, shelter, close, like basics. But if you want that, you gotta forfeit this idea that the United States is world number one. Is it worth the trade off? I don't think, and I, I think I could be taken to task here because I'm not in politics, but I don't, have you ever woken up Matt and said, I need to make sure America's number one today said, nobody ever, most people are focused on their own lives.
Exactly. They wake up and say. Is my kid up yet? Oh, finally. They're still fucking asleep. No Cheerios just yet. It's like that's what we're worried about in the morning, right? We're not worried about America being number one. We're worried about getting their kids to school, making sure our wives are happy, making sure that we're living with purpose, we're doing something important.
We're having the impact in the world. Like this is what most people care about. Nobody wakes up and says, whoa, the global hegemony of America, it must be sustained. And the only reason why it is is because I have my green lantern ring of power. No, you don't. You knucklehead. You have nothing. Leave a comment.
Would you sacrifice the world being the global leader if it meant all that money sent out would stay in? Lemme ask you this. You've been in to other countries all over the world. Hmm? You've also lived in other countries. Let's say that you lived in Korea for the next five years. Hmm. Would it, and let's say that you.
Renounced your American citizenship and you became a Korean. Hmm, national. If you lived in Korea five years from now, would you wake up in the morning and say, damn it, I made a poor decision. Cree is not the global hegemony and the Korean won is not as strong as it should be or would that thought never cross your mind?
It probably never crossed your mind. That's the point is that you live in Korea, Japan, uk, Australia, Ukraine, you know Bangladesh. It doesn't matter where you are. Nobody wakes up in the morning and says, you know what, my fellow Bangladeshian, why don't we fucking run the world? Nobody does this. And so I think at the end of the day, the experiment, which I quite actually think is a great idea of America shutting their borders.
I wonder. Would that make us more prosperous? Nobody in, nobody out. All the money, all the economy stays within the borders domestically, and you stop worrying about what the rest of the world is doing, even if it means they're organized and they get, they grow bigger, they grow stronger, whatever they do.
Defense only, wait, you've been to Switzerland, have you not? Mm-hmm. Okay. Um, you've been to Dubai, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So we, we've, we've been to countries where they're deeply insular. Now they're run by rich oligarchs, which is fine. America's almost no different in that regard. But at the end of the day, like these nations are doing well, it's like Switzerland's doing quite well.
Actually. I've visited multiple times. Um, divides. Yes, there's a huge, we talked about this on our last podcast. There's a huge divide between rich and poor. Fair? Not fair enough, fair enough. But. It's running. They're not the global hegemony and they're doing quite well, actually, in a lot of ways. So I wonder, I wonder about this whole idea of America being number one.
Is it as big of a deal as we truly imagined? What would happen if we turned off this, the spigots? What hap, what would happen if we turned off the hose of American influence? What would that do? I wonder, I mean, I think this for next week or another time, but if you think about it, if China, Russia, India, Iran, they're getting together, they're doing their own summits, they're meeting and they represent 40% of the population, and probably more significantly more than 40% of the world's GDP is United, United States, number one.
Anyway, talk about it next week. Have a good week everyone.